Europe is as good a market (if not better) than a lot of others. We take what we can get. It's called survival.

 

Neither can I Tinkerbell as can clearly be seen in my books, a subject which I dwell upon or possibly 'over-dwell' upon. Much of it was unnecessary - however our peers at the time thought otherwise. BUT - there have to be effective sanctions when children get out of hand (as most children do at one time or another). Just how far one should go with some form of physical restraint or other punishment is a very hot potato? But I still favour the use of corporal punishment in the right hands and with the right controls. It's all very well you or others saying - I can control my kids without having to lay hands on them, but it is not 'you' who is having to keep that 'control' in schools, it's others who haven't the same longevity of knowledge of the child or what makes it tick. We are all different. I quite accepted the old lady using the frying pan on me (she had to, she was very short of stature) but baulked and rebelled at others taking their fists to me (whether warranted or not). You're not my mother therefore you keep your hands of me - that sort of reaction. And unfortunately it only made me worse in seeking revenge. But when a ten year old tells you to 'f*** off and stick your pencil up your a***' just what are you supposed to do? You can blame parents if you wish but I find that a lame argument with some children. Some can be totally different 'outside' than when at home. Some have characters that argumentative and rebellious naturally. It's not always down to nurture. Problem - yes it is. But we cannot go on with the way things have been going. There has to be a middle road somewhere.

I saw the title of this thread and thought it was going to be about the poor Greeks 

My honorable Friend the Member for Manchester Central (Tony Lloyd) referred to the case and the situation in Rochdale. I want to speak about the girls in that case—the vulnerable girls who went to hell and back through what they experienced. I pay tribute to their bravery in coming forward and standing up to their abusers. They did it to get justice and to stop it happening to others. Vulnerable girls like that do not usually get heard by politicians. They do not get easy access to power or influence. How will the Government respond to these terrible crimes, and will the Prime Minister support a serious case review?

When I arrived for the Mayor making around 6.45 pm there was around 30 -40 of them. Whilst I don't agree with much of what they do, tonight they didn't cause any trouble and the person handing out leaflets was very polite and well spoken. Sometimes I think we judge to much by a name and often cause our own chaos through fear of the unknown,

I really don't think they are all as portrayed thugs and racists, most are family men and women  but you will always get the trouble causers in these kind of groups which then adds fear and contempt in all our minds.    

A lot of us agree with all of that.  I do not know why the riot policemen were there for only a few of these BNP because it now gives them great publicity again.